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Action Hero Smackdown : Han Solo vs. The Man With No Name

Posted by The Correctness | Posted in Action Smackdown | Posted on 18-11-2011

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ACTION SMACKDOWN!

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This week, The Man With No Name takes on Han Solo! Western vs Star guys.

The rules are simple, and can be found HERE.

Tbinns

May I indulge in a not at all relevant tangent for just a moment?

Thank you.

I think the show New Girl should do a cross over episode with Two Broke Girls to become Two Broke New Girls. And of course by “Cross over episode” I mean Kat Dennings and Zooey Deschanel should make out.

Sweeps week. Make it happen.

May I indulge in a barely relevant tangent for just a moment?

Thank you.

There is a reason why I have always preferred Han Solo to Luke Skywalker…I mean apart from the obvious, he’s way cooler, less whiny, etc.

Luke Skywalker is a dick. That’s right, a dick, I said it I stand by it. Who else but a dick would shrug off the death of the people who raised him like it was nothing, even after watching their skeletal remains smoulder. He turns his head away, for like half a second…”OK! Grieving period over. Bye people who raised me. That’s what you get for not letting me go to Toshi station.” That is some cold, cold shit Skywalker. Oh, but of course losing the Old weird guy who he JUST started hanging around with is a big deal. Not enough of a big deal to actually LISTEN to the guy when he speaks to him from the great beyond and tells him NOT TO GO FACE DARTH VADER, but enough to feel sorry for himself.

You are a huge dick, Luke.

Anyway Solo versus He Who Will Hereafter Simply Be Referred To As “The Man”

Maybe I’m way off base here but I can totally see a scenario wherein the two actually agree to LET each other get to the weapons each one taking their own, going to their respective sides and turning it into a good old fashioned cowboy quick draw. I think Solo is cocky enough to take The Man up on that, and I think The Man is smart enough to suggest it.

I say smart because on the count of three …Solo is dead.

1. Because NO ONE beats The Man in a quick draw scenario. NO ONE not even Solo. And…
2. Because Han does not shoot first. Not anymore. Are you happy now, George Lucas? Han Solo is dead and it’s YOUR FAULT!!!

And the more I think about other scenarios the more it comes up in The Man’s favour. Suppose they don’t have their gentleman’s agreement? Solo is useless in a hand to hand situation. He only tried it once and screwed up, allowing two Biker Scouts to get away. The Double cross, Han agrees to the weapon exchange and then shoots the man? ? If the Man knows anything, he knows to ALWAYS be on the look out for the double cross.

Nope. I love me some Han Solo, but that does not mean he can beat The Man with No Name

Winner: The Man with No Name

Loser: Luke Skywalker. Seriously, fuck that guy.

Admin_Rock:

Tricky one for me. Haven’t seen any of the movies with The Man With No Name. Westerns generally don’t do it for me. There’s a few I’ve seen and enjoyed, but generally, I don’t care for them. Something about the genre maybe, not sure. Didn’t stick with Deadwood, though lots of people rave about it. I just find them a bit, well, dull. Firefly was great, but I think that had more to do with the space element, and some great writing.

I know Han Solo though. Most overrated hero ever. He can fly a ship, i’ll give him that. But he’s lousy in a gunfight. And that’s what we have here. A purportedly expert gunfighter against a pilot who is okay at best as shooting a gun.

As I’ve mentioned before here, I’m kinda done with Star Wars for a while. I think I’ve seen it enough. I love arguing about it, so it’s not like I’ve stopped recognizing it, etc, but I’m not worshiping at the altar anymore. So I’m not looking at Solo through the eyes of an impressionable six year old. And when you remove those glasses, he’s…not that great.

Winner: The Man With No Name

RobbieRobTown:

Okay, I always had to play Luke Skywalker when we would play “Star Wars” in our neighbourhood, because everyone else wanted to be Han. Allow me to explain the rules of “Star Wars”. Star Wars is a wide game, not unlike Hide and Seek, Kick the Can, or Capture the flag, except instead of rules and goals you play a character and then run around and announce your intentions. Come to think of it, my friends and I may have invented LARPing, except we were 5 years old, so we were free from the guilt associated with any of this.

Oh, and Lesley, it wasn’t a wedding at the end of Star Wars. It was A medal ceremony. Do you hear me Lesley? Luke and Leia do not get married… Unless she is marrying all of them? That’s just gross girl-boy stuff, man. What kind of chick wants 3 husbands, one of whom is a wookie? Yes, I know, the answer is: A girl I should probably call in my adult years…

Anyway, I didn’t get that Han was cooler when I was young. Luke was magical, and what’s up with Han? Nothing. he runs and shoots stuff. Hello! NO FORCE. What makes that guy special? Nothing.

When I finally saw Return of the Jedi in a theatre, I warmed up to Han, but by then I already had my role as Luke assigned.

The Man with No Name I remember best as being Doc Brown’s befuddled assistant from the eighties, and he smokes a cigar and throws some pie plates, and then he wears sneakers in an old west bar. Also, his mom was hot.

Both of these guys would cheat the rules and mess with the system. Both of these guys would rather not be here. Both of these guys would assassinate Darth Vader.

Oh, and I’m sure Admin-Rock has already mentioned this, but as he so rightly pointed out to me the other day, it is NOT that Han shot first, it is more that Greedo NEVER SHOT AT ALL.

The dialogue here is entirely dependent on who has written the script. Can we pretend it is Lawrence Kasdan?

Han: Something kind of witty, but not too much.

MWNN: …

Han: Something Cocky.

MWNN: …

Han: !!!

MWNN: .

And then Han shoots first, or more correctly, The Man With No Name never shot.

And even if he did shoot, would a blaster melt a bullet in the air? This journalist says: Maybe.

Winner: Han

Loser: Biff Tannen

 

Winner: The Man With No Name

So RobbieRobTown’s childhood loses out to the much more distant and crusty childhoods of TBinns and Admin_Rock.  The Man with no Name steals a win, and you hurl abuse at us!

For Bren: Kirk vs. Solo

Posted by Tbinns | Posted in Correctness | Posted on 09-07-2010

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My nephew, Brendon is soon to become a father. He just bought his first house, and is thinking of applying his trade to his own business. When faced with the huge responsibilities of adulthood, one tends to turn thoughtful…introspective even. And then, you start asking the big questions. questions like…

Hey Uncle Tony Ummm…. Had a question which I am sure nerds have debated for for at least 25 years. Who would win in a battle Han Solo or Captain Kirk? I wanted to ask the vast knowledge of the Correctness but I dunno if there is a question section. Now if in question the Spock Kirk duel music is playing, no crowd, just a rancor to kill the loser.

Bren, I want you to know that you can always turn to me for advice in vital matters such as these.

The answer is: It depends.

If it’s a straight up fist fight? Well, I’d give the edge to Kirk. Who can withstand the might of the Hands Clasped Chop or the Awkward Drop Kick?

Gun Fight? Solo. Solo is a cowboy, you just aren’t going to outdraw him. Kirk would hit the ground before he uttered the phrase “Set to stun”

Ship to ship? Well there is no debating that The Enterprise is faster and outguns the Falcon massively. BUT The Falcon is WAY more maneuverable, I don’t think anyone would be able to get a lock on him. and if it’s a pilot fight between Solo and Sulu? Put your money on the guy who has out run Imperial Star Destroyers. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I’m talking about the big Corellian ships now.

Any tangle with Solo in his element is going to end with Kirk screaming “SOLOOOOOOOO!!!!” into his communicator and having it echo endlessly into space.

So if we do the math, that’s 2 out of 3 for Solo, so he is the Winner. But let us take this before the Correctness Council of the Wise before we raise anybody’s arm here.

Gentlemen?

DAVE: I can weigh in here, but it won’t be popular, or pleasing. Here it is straight up: I fucking HATE William Shatner. I don’t think he’s awesome, or clever, or funny in any way. ANY. WAY. Never liked him, never will. Calling him “The Shat” just makes be think of the past tense of pooping, which is pretty close to what his acting is. And don’t even get me started on his singing or directing, the past tense of which would be “The Vomat”. I guess what i’m trying to say here is “I fucking HATE William Shatner”.

The Original Star Trek is dear to many, but I suspect it’s mostly that kind of nostalgia that makes people think the Transformers were EVER good, or that an A-Team remake was in any way necessary. Really, it’s a pretty dull show, very dated (not its fault), and hard to swallow.

All of this makes it difficult for me to give Captain Kirk any credit. He’s a bit of a buffoon. He makes grand speeches, and waves his hands around a lot, and occasionally karate chops someone. Also, The Federation is the biggest bunch of goody two shoes going, about as incompetent as it gets. Palpatine could probably have just told them, “I’m taking over”, and it’s game over.

Han Solo on the other hand, has the whole Harrison Ford thing going for him. And Han has a striking resemblance to Indiana Jones, whom I admire greatly. And Han kicks a lot of ass.

No question, Han Solo in a cakewalk. Also, Han Solo as winner of said fight.

ROB:

I, unlike my associate Dave, LOVE William Shatner.  I love William Shatner in that same pseudo-sexual way that many men love James Bond in. I have read the Tek-War novels, I own a CD copy of “Has Been” and find his duet with Henry Rollins to be both funny and cool. But we aren’t talking about William Shatner, we are talking about James Tiberius Motherfucking Kirk.

James T. Kirk is the Batman of Star Trek. In fact, a fight between Batman and Kirk would be totally rad, let’s do that next week. New Smackdown Proposal: Anybody sacred versus anybody sacred. You will lose your shit we we do Santa Claus versus the Pope.

While the Federation is indeed a bureaucratic yawn, Jim Kirk is a troublemaker. Kirk has disobeyed the prime directive so many times, they might as well call it the sub-prime directive (Also acceptable punchline: The Second Derivative Directive).

But let’s get down to the metallic bulletin board anchors: If  your question Brendon, was “Who scores with hotter ladies”, then the answer is an emphatic “Jim Kirk”. There are websites dedicated to the hottest babes on Star Trek, and the hottest generally speaking have all been told the meaning of “Love” by our own Iowa farm boy and space jockey, Jimmy Kirk.

You, Brendon, did not ask that. You asked “Who would win in a battle Han Solo or Captain Kirk?” and a fine question that is. I assume you did not mean a sexy battle, because no number of Leias-in-gold-bikinis is enough to counter the immense volume of hot space tail that Kirk has tagged.

I love Han Solo too, though I never wanted to be him when I was a kid. I wanted to be Luke, because I wanted the force. Nonetheless, Han is pretty rad dude, and he says all the coolest lines with WAY more cool than Shatner could ever muster.

Han is by far the snappier dresser, and has a cooler collection of friends than Kirk. The number of times I hid in the closet to escape capture by the Empire as a kid should say something- about the Millennium Falcon and how cool it is, not about me being closeted, which is a rumour I don’t need further help with getting going…

Determiners: Han didn’t shoot first, Greedo never shot. Kirk beat the Kobayashi Maru. I haven’t had sex in nearly 2 years.

I love Star Wars more than I love my family, but my money is on Kirk.

CORRECTING: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Posted by The Correctness | Posted in Correctness, Movies | Posted on 13-06-2010

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The Correctness is a website that’s only about comedy, you think. But, remember, you also thought that Stonewash denim was a good idea, and that Uggs were awesome. You were wrong. The Correctness plays many important roles in your life. One of them is to provide replacements for disappointing films. Today, we tackle the mess that is Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

1) As the point of the exercise is to Correct, any mockery of the source material must be relevant, on point, or incredibly funny.*

*(Or otherwise- RRT)

2) No new characters are allowed, unless justification for their necessity can be made. Existing characters may be removed.*

*(Except for RRT)

3) Any solutions provided, by The Correctness or comment posters, are subject to ridicule and nitpicking.

4) There is no collaboration between The Correctness, nor do we read one another’s entries until after posting our own.

DAVE: Let’s start out by putting a few things on the table. I LOVE Indiana Jones. Always have. I was in grade 3 or 4 when Raiders came out, and I was disappointed when my parents went to see it with friends, and determined I couldn’t go for a few years. (They were right, it’s filled with some pretty frightening images. When I show it to my 6 year old son, I have to be on the ball to skip over the body of Alfred Molina, as well as Mr. Face Melt at the end. Mostly, he just wants to see the boulder scene, after which he demands we play the LEGO Indiana Jones game for the Wii.)

In fact, one of the first articles I wrote for The Correctness was about whether there should be an Indy 5 (which is now in pre-production, apparently we’re heading to the Bermuda Triangle.)

I’m certainly in the minority when I share my feelings about the 2nd and 3rd films. That is to say that Temple of Doom isn’t nearly as awful as most people seem to think, and that on the whole, it’s much stronger than the disappointing Last Crusade. I think the Eastern subject matter, as well as Kate Capeshaw’s screaming is responsible for the criticism of Temple. It does have Indy’s best sidekick by far, and some great action sequences. Last Crusade is simply a gong show, with the introduction of Sean Connery as Indy’s dad giving the film a light hearted direction which doesn’t help anyone. Sallah goes from being a stalwart capable man to a bumbling fool, as does Marcus Brody. The villains are Nazis (AGAIN?), and many of the story beats are retreads of things from the first two films. The best villain in the film is the dude who gives Indy his hat, and that’s over in about 15 minutes.

But I digress. I really, really, really wanted to love Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, but as I watched, it became apparent that they were trying to recapture the magic, and failing terribly. Actually, my first thought was “This is like watching my dad go an adventure.” I like my dad a lot, but he’s maybe a bit old for that kind of thing. There were moments of pure Indy, the chase inside the warehouse was great, and the cemetery scene was good as well. But for every one of those, we had a “nuking the fridge”, or “swinging through the jungle”. The other thing that still bugs me is the idea that the guardians of the temple near the end just hang out inside the walls for months on end, waiting, hoping against hope, that someone will come along.

So: How to fix Crystal Skull?

First things first, as much as I hate to admit it, Harrison Ford is too damn old. No one wants to see their grandpa adventuring. So we need to recast him with someone slightly younger. Someone in their 40′s (because we’re doing a movie from the 50′s, as opposed to an earlier Indy story.) Should be someone who can pull off swagger and bravado. We’ll save the actual casting for a “Casting Couch” article. Same goes for Marion. It’s not an ageism thing, but I want Indy to look capable of pulling off the stunts and the physical exertion.Shia LeBoeuf can stay. He was fine. The movie had his character doing some stupid shit, but he himself was not a problem.

The opening can stay intact, except we lose the cutesy gophers. The soldiers arrive at the base, and roll Indy and Mack out of the trunk. They go inside the warehouse and force Indy to find the skeleton. Mac reveals himself to be a traitor, and the scene plays out the same, with Indy escaping on the high speed rail. Only this time, he doesn’t end up in the test site. He watches it unfold from a distance.

Back at the University, Dr Jones’ class is interrupted by a brash young man who enters, leaving an envelope on the desk, while he makes eyes at a few of the girls in the front row. He leaves, and Jones goes to follow him, demanding an answer. However, Jones is met at the door by officials of the US Govt, who want to talk him about the Area 51 event. There is an interrogation, during which Indy’s loyalty is questioned. After much argument, he is released, but followed. He heads back to the university, and opens the letter. Realizing his friend is in danger, he immediately makes plans to head to Peru. At the airport, we see US Agents, as well as Mutt, following Indy. In a brief action sequence, he loses the agents, grabs Mutt, and gets him on the plane as well. During the flight, Mutt explains the background on Oxley.

The Asylum and Cemetery scenes stay intact, except that after they leave Peru, we have a brief scene with the US Agents arriving late to the game, and figuring out where Jones went from the ticket agents. They themselves are being followed by shadowy figures.

Indy and Mutt arrive in Brazil, following clues they have gleaned from Oxley’s letters and the info in both the asylum and the cemetery. They hire equipment, and make their way towards Akator. We have a scene at night by the campfire, in which Indy and Mutt begin to bond, as Mutt tells Indy stories about Oxley, and what it was like growing up in the midst of his genius and madness. Jones tells Mutt that in the morning, they’ll reach the temple. Without warning, the camp is attacked by the Us Agents, in an attempt to capture Jones. Jones and Mutt escape in to the jungle, where they are surprised to find the Russians (who have been following the Americans.) They are brought back to the camp, and Spalko, Mac, and her men attempt to get the location of the temple from Indy. He refuses. They threaten to shoot him. He refuses. They bring out Mutt, and threaten to shoot him. Mutt tells Indy not to tell them. They then bring out Marion Ravenwood, to Indy’s shock. They hold a gun to her head, and ask for the location again. Indy is about to tell them, when Mutt grabs a branch from the fire, and attack the guard holding Marion. A fistfight ensues, joined by the American agents. During the struggle, Indy grabs Marion and Mutt, and they escape.

As they trek through the jungle, we have a scene where Indy discovers that Mutt is his son. The morning arrives, and the adventurers stumble out of the jungle to the top of the Akator structure. As in the film, it’s determined that removing the sand opens the temple. They head in to the temple, and discover a room filled with treasures. They enter the “final chamber”, and see Oxley, sitting in the centre of the room, babbling incoherently. He’s trying to return the skull, but can’t sort out the proper method of approaching the throne. Each time he does, he is knocked back. Indy reads the markings on the wall, and realizes that Oxley can’t return the skull because he’s been using the wrong approach, and that the skull belongs to young child alien. Indy explains the correct way to approach. At this point, Spalko and the soldiers arrive. Spalko takes the skull, and uses the correct path. But she is greedy and angry and impure, and the throne rejects her, destroying her with mystical energy. The same fate awaits the soldiers. The room is sealed, and threatens to tear itself apart. Indy grabs the skull, and starts down the path. Marion realizes the problem, and grabs the skull from Indy, walking down the path. She opens her mind, and the throne realizes that Marion is also a mother, and that she has no ill intent. It accepts the skull, returning it the child skeleton. The door opens, and Marion tells them they need to leave. They head out, as the temple begins to shift. As they exit, they see the ship bury itself further in the earth, the ground above it becoming hills and thick jungle.

Indy is pleased that the Russians didn’t get the ship, but has nothing to show for his adventure. Mutt pulls out a piece of parchment he grabbed on the way out. Indy realizes it’s a map showing the location of an island that could very well be Atlantis.

End with wedding scene as in film.

Damn, that was long. Sorry.

Rob:

I swear to you, I have not seen Crystal Skull, and consequently, I am in the perfect position to fix it.

( I was not allowed outside during those years: see: all previous references to my ex.)

Fist of all (And I mean “fist”, and not “first”, because that is how I feel about seeing this film), Indiana Jones is very clearly a Hanna Barbera cartoon. Indy obviously requires the assistance of a Scrappy Doo, a Bam Bam, one or both Wonder Twins, an Orbity, or any other foolishly conceived youthful sidekick.  Shia LaBeouf, who is a digitally created character, is nearly the perfect choice for this whimsical animated children’s series. Many have compared LaBeouf to Jimmy Stewart,  who is said to have that same “everyman quality”. Indeed, LaBeouf has that everyman quality precisely because he was composited from every single man on earth. The resulting digital map was used to create the most average actor of all time.  LaBeouf would have kid appeal in a Hanna-Barbera cartoon, but I have a better idea.

How about this:

Indy goes on an archeological adventure in the jungle.  Upon rescuing an implausibly young, widowed mother of three from a giant spider, or a giant ape, or a tribe of giant ape-spiders, Indy feels compelled to marry this sad but beautiful (also, young) woman, and help raise her family. Also, this woman has a giant rack- like a gonzo Reno stripper rack, like, it’s kind of gross to look at but you have to keep watching it, because it’s like a freakshow. And the eldest daughter, at 17, also has an implausible rack. Might as well slap some enormous tits on the young boys too.

On a nonstop musical road trip in their converted bus, “Papa Jones and His Singing Indies” dance, play  and jiggle their way into the hearts of the world, until one fateful day, while touring in Antarctica, they are sucked down into a Lost World.

In a strange prehistoric land, The Singing Indies stumble across a wounded triceratops who happens to speak English. Not only does this gruff dinosaur named “Trike” speak English, but he also plays the most rock-steady drums this side of the stone age. Also, his rack, while scaly, is pretty big too.

Winning over the hearts and minds of an entire prehistoric world with their family oriented Christian rock, Papa Indy establishes a school for dinosaurs, and his hot wife and daughter bathe a lot.  They all go on many adventures, and Trike eventually gets a spin off series in which he becomes an AM DJ on the Above-World, and adopts a family of Catholic College girls with extraordinary racks. Trike gives them fatherly advice, and they all take their tops off a lot.

How am I doing so far. Better than Crystal Skull? Is my satirical intent clear? I will finally watch Indy 4 when they digitally remove Shia LaBeouf from every last frame.

TONY

First of all, I would like to say that Crystal Skull is not as bad as people seem to think it is.

It has deeply, deeply flawed moments to be sure, but nothing that can’t be fixed. It’s not a disaster of Episode One like proportions

Secondly, (Admin Rock I’m looking at you. ) to replace Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones is insane. You know why I didn’t watch Young Indiana Jones Chronicles? Because it didn’t have Harrison Ford in it, it wasn’t Indiana Jones.

Either deal with an older Indy…or do without.

HERE’S WHAT HAS TO GO

1. Nuke The Fridge: Now let’s be fair, straining credulity is not new to the franchise. Technically we should be no more uncomfortable with this than we were with getting your heart ripped out and still living, flying from track to track in a mine car, jumping out of an airplane in a life raft, then swooshing down a mountain side, over a waterfall and then to safety. It’s all total bullshit.

However, for some reason this seems to cross a line. I think it’s the enormity of a nuclear explosion that finally triggers our “OH COME ON!!!” response. Or maybe it’s just the fact that we aren’t watching these as kids anymore. Either way, I think the fight scene and the rocket escape were good enough…in the grand scheme of things the nuclear blast didn’t really serve any function anyway, apart from trying to raise the stakes again. Although I think they should totally nuke Buster in a lead lined fridge on Mythbusters

2. Monkeys. : Raiders Monkey= Awesome, Crystal Skull Monkeys =embarrassing. That HAS to be a George thing, it has to.

“The Monkeys look like greasers, so they decide en masse to help Mutt. Because of his hair.”

“But George, I think…”

“GREASER MONKEYS!!!!”

“Okay, okay, settle down…”

3.Sword fight : The kid having an interest in fencing to justify the swordfight is lame. They can find a different way to fight that would be just as exciting without having to resort to an actual, barely justifiable swordfight.

3. “I’m a double agent, no I’m not, yes I am, wait no I’m your pal” 1980 Indy would have shot him after the first turn, I’m not sure why 2007 Indy didn’t
4. “Here, grab this snake, I’ll haul you out” Ugggh…just ughhhh.

But having said that, the Warehouse sequence is great, the fight scene in the ravenous ants was inspired, the scenes in the graveyard with the blowdarts was classic Indy. I even liked the motorcycle chase. I liked the idea that Indy was O.S.S, I liked the fact that Marion was back. I didn’t HATE Shia LaBouef.

And I did not have the slightest problem with the inter-dimensional beings macguffin it is NO WORSE than having a centuries old knight that’s still alive, or Deus Ex Ark that wipes out your bad guy problem for you..

So my solution to make it better would be to lose what I listed above, maybe write one more really good action piece in its place, give Marion a little more to do, maybe bring in Kasdan to do punch up on the dialogue and bingo. I think you’ve got a good little Indy movie.

Having said all that…don’t make another one.