hahahahah Dying.

Just shows you how palpatine got that skill, and used it to “create” Anakin and set in motion the whole thing…

Shmi Skywalker: There was no father. I carried him, I gave birth, I raised him. I can’t explain what happened.

#29 Obi was prepared for some time to join the living Force. That was the moment he chose. Obi did feel he failed Anakin, so Yoda was the best choice for Luke. Since he would have sensed Yoda passing, he planned to direct Luke to him all along.

#30 Clones were created on the template of Jango, who was believed to be the best in warriors. They wanted an army who had his skill & abilities and mostly because they could control them. GO 66 would not have been implemented so flawlessly without question. To say because there were no humans available is silly.

#32 The Jedi as a whole lost focus with no real threat to deal with. They became complacent and arrogant. The EU claims like over 1000 years had passed since they encountered the Sith. With Sith, there can only be 2 at a time (Master/Apprentice) so there can’t be legions like the new game.

#47 deals with mainly attachment. Remember GL “borrows” a lot. The template for the Jedi was of Shaolin monks. Attachment causes distraction and weakness. If you’re a warrior, how tough will you be when I’m slaughtering your captive loved ones? We know how emotionally taxing love and relationships can be. One could not focus with maximum effect with all that distraction. Anakin proved that perfectly.

In closing, I’ll defend you right to speak freely, but people who curse extraneously in threads really show their lack of class, education, and dumb down the Net.

• 46 Things Wrong With The Star Wars Prequels:
Direction – Story – Timeline – Theme – Logic
1. George Lucas can’t direct.
2. George Lucas must be surrounded and insulated by a circle of Yes Men who tell him everything he’s doing is perfect. He truly doesn’t realize how much his ideas, stories, and movie making abilities suck. Or it’s hubris? Or he’s insane?
3. Prequels suck. You know what’s going to happen, it’s going to lead into the original movies. Hello?
4. Kids in movies suck. The first movie should not have been about Lil’ Anakin Skywalker. It’s pathetic. (One exception: E.T. )
5. All three movies should’ve been PG-13 rated. This is a “dark time for the Jedi,” and some really bad things happened. If you refuse to show them you’re doing everyone a disservice. There was a big difference in tone between 4, 5, & 6, so why not tighten that up? We go from a movie about little kids to a movie about killing little kids, it’s a leap.
6. “Clone Wars” meant more when we didn’t know anything about it. After these movies it’s meaningless. They fought with clones, battle droids, myriad aliens, Jedi & Sith. If it’s a Clone Wars then there should be more than one and it should be all about the clones.
7. It’s the Clone Wars, but why clones?
8. Alec Guiness was 63 in 1977. Why did Vader wonder how Obi Wan could’ve lived so long, and assumed it must be the power of the force?
9. The final movie gave no reason why Vader should assume Obi Wan is dead. And at their next encounter how did Obi Wan recognize him? If he hadn’t known Anakin as Vader at least during the last battle, then he would’ve called him Anakin the next time he saw him. Somewhere before moving to Tatooine Obi Wan should’ve seen Anakin as Vader.
10. Return Of The Jedi should’ve involved Chewbacca’s home planet, not the fucking Ewoks. That was the original intention, and they changed it due to philosophical differences over how technologically advanced the Wookies were supposed to be.
11. Lucas’ explanation that the “Revenge Of The Jedi” title was just a trick vs. bootleggers is bullshit because I had catalogs from Kenner that said Revenge Of The Jedi. He has been known to lie, make up stories, or change his story for no apparent reason on several issues.
12. Phantom Menace and Attack Of The Clones are still incredibly stupid titles. They do not invoke old 1950 pulp sci fi serials. They invoke translations of movie titles into Japanese and then back again into English. “Threat Of Illusion” & “Attack Of Clone.”
13. Pod racing on Tattooine. Painful to watch.
14. CGI looks fake. It’s like watching a cartoon. Most people agree but don’t seem to mind. I mind. Especially with all the flipping around the Jedi do now. I said it before, Yoda in Empire was 100 times more realistic than CGI Yoda.
15. Yoda should never, ever need a lightsaber. He blocks things, moves things, he talks, he directs, he’s a great general in the clone wars, but he doesn’t fight hand to hand. If he did then we would’ve seen him teaching Luke how to use the lightsaber on Dagobah. Ha! Luke just assumed a Jedi master must be a “great warrior,” but he knew nothing of Yoda as a historical figure. In Ep. 4-6 the generals wait in the fucking command center, they aren’t landing with the ground troops. Why can’t Yoda be vulnerable? Why does he have to kick mucho gusto ass. Why can’t there be a mostly noncombatant Jedi master who’s just wise and respected?
16. If Yoda can do flips, kicks and shit then why does he need a cane to walk? it’s bullshit. And how can he go from spry at age 780 but dying of old age at 810? And that’s not his age, that’s how long he’s been training Jedi.
17. Better: Yoda was hunted by Darth Tyrannus to the ends of the universe as the other Jedi were being destroyed. They finally crashed on Dagobah which killed Tyrannus and left Yoda marooned, but due to Tyrannus’ dark ghost, safe from the Sith. He doesn’t need to fight an epic battle! His words should be enough. His example. Going back to the captured city to attack the emperor was idiotic, and if he’s that reckless then why did he give up at the end. He almost killed him. Having him run around like a little monkey was just demeaning.
18. Better: Anakin Skywalker fell into a molten pit and was left for dead by Obi Wan. But hate and the force were so strong in him that he held on to life and dragged his sorry carcass out of the lava, where he was rescued, returned to the emperor, and made into Darth Vader. I think the problem is that between then and now someone realized that if a person actually fell into lava or molten metal they would be flash incinerated. No carcass to drag. Still it looked half assed? And why couldn’t the dark side protect him from the lava somehow, force field or something?
19. If Emperor Palpatine didn’t look like that until he fought Mace Windu then why did he appear as Darth Sidious in holograms throughout the three movies?
20. What kind of place elects a “queen” for a short time? It’s a half-assed justification for Leia to be a “real” princess. Every world doesn’t have to be a democracy or it’s “evil.” Better if Leia’s mom was a senator, and she was adopted by a king and queen.
21. Fucking Super Ninja Better: Love triangle! Anakin was too young for Padme, so she fell in love with Obi Wan. But he saw her only as a princess to be served, not an equal. But Anakin loved her more than life itself, and never understood why she couldn’t love him in return. Especially seeing how Obi Wan rejected her. Finally he couldn’t stand it and as he became seduced by the dark side he raped Padme, spawning Luke & Leia. Obi Wan sought revenge and that led to their epic battle on the molten planet. (His failure with Anakin, his responsibility) Knowing how the Emperor seduced Anakin, Obi Wan forced Padme to send her son and daughter into hiding. Heart broken and alone she killed herself like that girl in Last Of The Mohicans.
22. General Grievous is extraneous. It’s the Clone Wars, not the separatist droid army led by whatever the hell that thing is wars. IG-88 would’ve been cooler.
23. Darth Vader as seen in the prequels is pathetic compared to the Darth Vader from the original films. He’s whiny, dumb, love struck, Oedipal issues.
24. Darth Vader shouldn’t serve the emperor because he wants to, but because the emperor beats him down and forces him to call him Master.
25. We never saw Palpatine teach Anakin anything.
26. Nearly every line of the movie induces a cringe. Whether it’s bad direction: Why does Samuel L. Jackson speak like that? Or bad writing: Why does Yoda continue to talk backwards? It’s more like he’s retarded than he just doesn’t speak English well? If my ESL girlfriend talked like that I’d tell her she’s saying it wrong. He didn’t talk like that in Empire.
27. What was with the sitcom action between Anakin and Padme?
28. The reign of Emperor Palpatine is based on racism. An effort to wipe non-human species from the galaxy. Which is why everyone in the Empire is human and the Jedi order, who allow all sorts, is the antitheses. Explains why Mos Eisley is full of “scum & villainy,” i.e. aliens.
29. Obi Wan’s failure with Anakin is that of neglect. He really isn’t a very good Jedi Master. The years spent on Tatooine hone him, but he’s still no match for Vader. Then how did he defeat Anakin the first time? Maybe an accident or some trick or Vader’s own hubris? And his final act is to sacrifice himself just so Luke would become incensed? What’s that? How is Luke being angry, seeking revenge, help him become a better Jedi? Wouldn’t Obi Wan sticking around to train him help him more. They both could’ve gone to seek Yoda.
30. They started making clones because there weren’t enough humans in the galaxy. There’s plenty of faster ways to build an army, especially of battle droids and aliens, unless you have a reason for them to be human.
31. The Wookie home world (I don’t care enough to look it up, starts with a K) was completely wasted. There was a battle and we saw some Wookies, oh, and finally Chewie, but big whoop, he didn’t do anything. Did Luke and Yoda ever get to talking and then they were like, “Oh, duuuude, I flew with Chewie, you knew Chewie?,” and Yoda’s like, “Galaxy small.”
32. The Jedi were weakened how? There were Sith Lords all along, right. If they died out then there couldn’t be any more. A decadent decline. Lost their powers because they picked sorry students? Lost too many to the Dark Side? The world changed to a democracy and the Jedi were a leftover of the old Empire. Then when the new Empire rose, there was no room for Jedi anymore.
33. Darth Vader = Dark Invader, Darth Sidious = Dark Insidious, Darth Tyrannus = Dark Tyrant, Darth Maul = Dark Mauler
34. “Hunted down and destroyed the Jedi.” His soldiers were clones. Why all this robot shit? After the rise of the Empire they used clone Stormtroopers exclusively, because you can’t trust aliens or robots!
35. What’s the Clone Wars vs. anyway? What’s the purpose? Who are they fighting against and why? Droid separatists? Trade Federation? Darth Tyrannus? All of the above? It should be either Humans vs. Aliens OR at the discovery of clone technology, various factions began building huge clone armies to fight each other. “Together we will bring order to the galaxy.”
36. Princess Leia’s birth mother was not a princess or queen. She was simply a senator. Leia’s adoptive parents were king & queen of wherever. The Organas. Which is why Leia rebelled from her princess upbringing to become a Senator herself. Now that makes sense! Forcing her to be a real princess (though elected) and a real senator is awfully forced.
37. “General Kenobi, you served my father in the Clone Wars.” He served Bail Organa, King of someshit? But he didn’t serve anyone in Ep 1-3 except Yoda and Padme herself.
38. The Clone Wars were chaotic. Obi Wan and Anakin doing this, Palpatine usurping power, Yoda in the fucking command center, until finally it all went to shit when Palpatine declared himself emperor. Then Anakin turned to the dark side, as a philosophical follower of Palpatine, in disgust of the weakness he saw in Obi Wan, hatred of the Jedi, lust for power, not a Sith Lord yet, and then later the Emperor made him his student and Darth Vader went forth to hunt down the Jedi. And then some time later he became our Vader.
39. The Clone Wars should’ve been the background for the prequels, with our heroes in on the action, not the politics.
40. Ewoks + Frogs = Jar Jar & the Gungans (in Lucas’ mind).
41. Episode 1= The Quest For Clone Technology Episode 2= The Clone Wars Episode 3=The Rise Of The Empire/Fall Of The Jedi
42. Emperor Palpatine says, “friends” excessively in the final chat/battle with Luke and Vader.
43. Yoda never reprimanded Obi Wan for being reckless despite them talking about it in Empire.
44. In 2005, along with this trailer, I downloaded a trailer for “Star Wars: Episode II” from 2002 or so, that shows scenes of and lists as stars Gabriel Byrne, a cataract-eyed Christopher Walken, and shows a half dozen Boba Fett’s in a doorway. I don’t know what it is, where it came from or if it’s even real?
Update: I found out someone actually constructed that “trailer” out of other movies and stock footage, with a little CGI of his own, after rumors circulated that those two actors were being considered for parts in the new film, as a way of encouraging them to accept, or creating fan pressure on them to accept.
So, it’s not really a criticism then, though “anything” different looks like an improvement at this point. I’m sure if they’d cast Walken as “Darth Tyrannus” (Ugh, I feel like a 5 year old writing about Power Rangers writing that stupid name), we’d be wishing it’d been played by Christopher Lee if we’d heard rumors of that.
45. It took them 20 years to build one Death Star but the other one only took a couple of years between Episode 4 and 6? They should’ve just been looking at some plans at the end of Epidode 3. And no one said, “If any system dares oppose us they will face the might of this death star.” Building another Death Star is weak. After the Death Star exploded they should’ve re-evaluated their goals and gone in a completely different direction, such as training more Sith Lords. Anything different would’ve been an improvement.
46. Changing your name when you turn to the Dark Side is similar to how Black Muslims changed their name when they converted in the 60’s. So it Star Wars racist? One token good guy Black in each series. Lando and Windu. At least Billy Dee Williams didn’t have a Tennessee accent.
47. The very concept that Jedi are forbidden to fall in love or get married is so preposterous as to cause me to question the sanity of anyone who’d even think of such an unreasonable requirement let alone try to force that oblong onto the concept of Jedi Knights, who are supposed to be the wisest and greatest of all persons in the galaxy. Is George Lucas trying to make us hate Jedi, or is he trying to connect them with his stupid beliefs in Christianity?
48. I’m not done yet!!!

Secondly… Did anyone read the SW books? Or am I the only lame-o fan who did that… I suppose the books are irrelevant to the movie time-line and I’ll get yelled at for this… But I DID do a lot of SW RPG so timeline stuff was always important…

Star Wars: The Bounty Hunter Wars: The Mandalorian Armor: Bounty Hunter #1 http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/product-description/0553524968/ref=dp_proddesc_0/179-1144519-3995359?ie=UTF8&n=916520&s=books — Dengar actually ends up rescuing Fett from the Sarlacc… But again, that’s so lame and un-macho of Fett to be RESCUED… By Dengar, no less…. to save his butt from a sand-vagina.

LOL at #21, I’m not too wrapped up in it to care but that is funny.

Regarding #14, the Turn, yes it was sudden but the thing is he made the choice when he chopped of Windu’s arm and there was no going back, especially since he wanted to save sweet Padme.